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dragonfly

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FAQ about making babies...
« on: Jul 08, 2005, 01:50:21 AM »
Feel free to add words of wisdom here - you might want to go and hunt down something you have posted in here before it drops off the end of the boards...  

I have added this sticky topic so that info is easily accesible to those who want it and we don't have to keep repeating ourselves with some basic information.

However, please feel free to continue to start topics about cervical mucus, otherwise I may have to invent opportunities to wax lyrical about my favorite subect ;) ;D

I'll start, its a while since I did the baby making thing.  what are the main resource books for lesbians thinking of making babies these days?  It's a while since I did this.  But the books I used 10 years ago were
Challenging Conceptions by Lisa Saffron
Considering Parenthood by Cherie Pies
Making Babies by Robert Winston
and a book by April Martin, the title of which I can't remember, but there is a British version of it available
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Re:FAQ about making babies...
« Reply #1 on: Jul 08, 2005, 09:28:02 AM »
"It's a Family Affair" by Lisa Saffron.

The PinkParents website ( http://www.pinkparents.org.uk/ )  They also have links to several other groups and resources.

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Re:FAQ about making babies...
« Reply #2 on: Jul 08, 2005, 09:44:36 AM »
And some of these books are available in "the library" - not sure if you can borrow from another local authority's stock or just within your local area on an inter-library loan, but definitely Challenging Conceptions has been available from Brighton Library for 10 years.

Also, librarians are, in my experience, quietly very broad-minded.  Even the (heterosexually married) school librarian hunted down lesbian books for me 20 years ago.

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Re:FAQ about making babies...
« Reply #3 on: Jul 08, 2005, 10:07:43 AM »
I read the Lisa Saffron book a couple of years before we started this process. I found it irritating in places (and very anti-clinics) but it is a great resource. The American books are very good too even if the healthcare info doesn't apply.

The Ultimate Guide to Pregnancy for Lesbians: Tips and Techniques from Conception to Birth - How to Stay Sane and Care for Yourself   by
Rachel Pepper is a good read and even contains tips on how to get maternity clothes that aren't femme-tastic.

Having then decided on the clinic route, going for an initial interview with a nurse at the London Womens Clinic was an excellent way of getting more information (and more importantly) an idea of the 'feel' of the whole process. Its all very medicalised and there are processes that have to be followed and that first appointment is a great guide.

Another brilliant resource is this messageboard:

http://uk.msnusers.com/LesbianInseminationSupport

We have met some really nice women through the MSN site (who already feel like our friends) so its a great way to start up some support networks.

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Re:FAQ about making babies...
« Reply #4 on: Jul 11, 2005, 12:18:22 AM »
I've noticed that people ask about importing sperm from the US from time to time. I've done that (and have my beautiful baby boy to show for it!) I've been sending people out an e-mail with the details of how I did it when people ask, but I'm going to stick it here cos then it's there for anyone who is interested!  :)

Please bear in mind that this is only my experience and relates specifically to the two clinics I used, but other people have said they found it helpful.

* I registered with my clinic in Manchester, which all in all took about 6 months with the various tests, counselling and doctor's approval etc. I paid about 300 for tests (not optional)
* I contacted the American clinic. This clinic was recommended to me by someone who had used it already. You can only use HFEA approved clinics and apparently there aren't many of them, but this clinic works closely with the HFEA.
* Set up an account with NE Cryogenics. This involves sending off for a bunch of forms which you then fill in and send back. You have to give out your bank details and your clinic in Britain needs to fill in some sections too.
* Then you need a license from the HFEA to import sperm. The British clinic will contact them on your behalf and it took about a month for the decision to come through. You shouldn't have any problems if you are just importing a small amount to try and conceive. I've heard that the law around this may change soon and clinics will be able to apply for the license so you don't have to do it personally. (I don't have up to date information on this) What I didn't realise at the time was that the license only lasts a month so I would advise you not to get the license until you have checked out donor availability.
* I chose a donor only to discover he wasn't currently available as he needed to go in for a test. I waited for a while but after a month he still wasn't available. I chose another donor - he wasn't currently available either! I waited a while and by that time my license had run out! I had to apply for another license (it was much quicker this time as it was a re-application) and eventually went with my 3rd choice donor. My advice is, check this stuff first. It says on the website that all donors listed should be available within 60 days but they can't actually guarentee this in practice. NE Cryogenics will store purchased sperm free of charge for 3 months, so you could buy it and then apply for a license.
* The American clinic ships your vials to the British clinic. This is where things get expensive. My vials cost $385 each and I bought 5. (Non identity release sperm is $285 per vial) I'm afraid I can't remember how much the shipping costs were but you have to pay a deposit of about $800 and they can take up to a year to refund this. (update note: this clinic is no longer charging deposits)  5 vials is the maximum number you can ship in one go, and with the deposit and shipping costs being high and knowing that it takes 4 inseminations on average to get pregnant it seemed sensible to ship the maximum 5 as long as you can afford it.
* My clinic had never done this before and although they were great about it I had to check up on things every stage of the way. For example you are responsible for making sure the shipping container is sent back to the American clinic and it took quite a while for me to get my clinic to organise this.
* From then on you can continue as if you were just using the British clinic. Bear in mind though that I still had to pay the full price which they would charge even if they had provided the sperm for me. This was 450 per insemination. I also hadn't considered the fact they would charge me to store the sperm at their clinic and I was given an annual charge of 165 for this. I have also just discovered that you will be charged twice if you want to store another lot later on even if you are already storing some. (I'm currently in the process of sorting out more vials of the same donor for a sibling)

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Re:FAQ about making babies...
« Reply #5 on: Jul 11, 2005, 03:21:02 PM »
further to pinklucy's info above about importing sperm from the USA - I know some women are importing (anonymous donor) sperm directly from a sperm bank in the USA to their homes, rather than to a clinic. (No British clinic will sell you frozen sperm to use in the privacy of your own home). I don't know about the legalities of all this but the sperm bank's website (www.nwcryobank.com) has an active messageboard, including some British members.
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Re:FAQ about making babies...
« Reply #6 on: Jul 11, 2005, 04:35:24 PM »
Are you sure that's a sperm bank?

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Re:FAQ about making babies...
« Reply #7 on: Jul 11, 2005, 05:03:08 PM »
Are you sure that's a sperm bank?

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« Reply #8 on: Jul 11, 2005, 05:06:12 PM »
oops!  :-[

www.nwcryobank.com


sorry!  ;)

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Re:FAQ about making babies...
« Reply #9 on: Jul 11, 2005, 05:23:20 PM »
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Re:FAQ about making babies...
« Reply #10 on: Jul 15, 2005, 01:35:50 PM »
This was a guidance published by the Royal Colledge of Midwives re caring for lesbian mothers.  might make useful reading for some.


http://www.rcm.org.uk/data/education/data/documents/PP%2022%20Maternity%20care%20for%20lesbian%20mothers.doc

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Re:FAQ about making babies...
« Reply #11 on: Jul 15, 2005, 05:13:15 PM »

 please feel free to continue to start topics about cervical mucus,


oh i remember the lovely convos i had on GB re; the very topic!! thanks for all you help at the time gals, so glad i dont have to ask about that again!!

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Re:FAQ about making babies...
« Reply #12 on: Jul 15, 2005, 05:14:04 PM »
Cherie Pies

surely not her real name?! ??? ;D

dragonfly

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Re:FAQ about making babies...
« Reply #13 on: Jul 18, 2005, 10:11:26 PM »
Cherie Pies

surely not her real name?! ??? ;D

I had a very similar response, but it was printed on the front cover of the book, so it must be true :o  I'm hoping ( :-\ perhaps not the right words ::)) that she made it up herself rather than her parents giving it to her when she was too young to answer back

oh god... I feel a very judgmental "names to not give your baby" thread coming on...

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Re:FAQ about making babies...
« Reply #14 on: Jul 31, 2005, 03:39:18 PM »
I have found some great sites whilst doing my research to become pregnant in the next few months with my chosen donor..(will keep you posted)

Fantastic site for Baby names and its origin:
http://babynames.bounty.com/babynames/


For those like me who are concerend about putting on too much weight during pregnancy:
http://www.pregnancywithoutpounds.com/clickbank/home.htm?hop=matma000cb

Chanel4 have a good site and includes advice and other links:
http://www.channel4.com/health/microsites/F/family/index.html

Nutrition and supplements for expectant and new mums (also a free trial):
http://www.mumsessentials.com/index.html

Natural baby...a site for those that are environmentally aware and want the most natural things for their baby: http://www.naturalbabycompany.com/

Organic food for your baby
http://www.babyorganix.co.uk/

Also I have noticed that if you do a search on the  internet for baby freebies or free baby stuff you get trial stuff and other goodies that can help you and your little one. vouchers, books, free nappies (maybe the one but get all ya mates to apply heehee) and also baby wipes etc......

Also helpful hints on nutrition and help groups.

 :-*

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