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Re: Election 2017
« Reply #90 on: May 17, 2017, 06:14:15 AM »
FYI i've been out at weekend canvassing and leafleting for Labour. As i have done for many years.   For my MP and my party..Not for Corbyn.  Most people I have spoken to on the doorstep, if they arent voting for Theresa, will say 'for my MP not for Corbyn'   Incidentally, the Corbyn fan base want the Labour MP gone.  We've been battling them for ages.  They're mostly not out canvassing.
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Re: Election 2017
« Reply #91 on: May 17, 2017, 08:21:25 AM »
Thanks Wolfie. Spot on.

And you'd have trouble finding someone who is trying every which way to be practical to help Labour more than Sorted.

The extent to which everyone can chip is different depending on their constituency. Mine is a 26,000 Tory majority. My current CLP is entirely run by Corbynites most less than two years into joining. They send out Momentum stuff targeting and naming anyone who isn't loyal to Corbyn despite members repeatedly saying they don't want to receive material from third party organisations criticising Labour members. People who complain are laughed at and mocked in official minutes. Everyone from our Chair, parliamentary candidate, treasurer, secretary, membership secretary, womens officer, LGBT officer resigned on mass because of the intimidation. And they were never even asked their politics. The new regime simply wanted its own representatives in positions of power and their only crime was to not have been to the meeting that they have before the official meeting. At election time in 2015 they were spending the vast majority of their free time "doing something practical to get the Tories out." Then they were told they were Tories and they should just leave.

Not everyone's constituency will be as bad as mine.

But I do wonder how I am going to damage the parties chances of winning incrementally by saying on here that I want people to vote for Labour but there are also problems in the party. Whereas Len McCluskey, can announce via the press that Labour are unlikely  to win and a loss by 63 seats, a Tory majority of 80, our worst result since 1935, would be a good result. Why isn't he being criticised for having that effect? I feel there is a big element of people getting their excuses in early.

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Re: Election 2017
« Reply #92 on: May 19, 2017, 10:59:59 PM »
The extent to which everyone can chip is different depending on their constituency.

Probably, but they could put up a poster, like I have (A3 size) and like my neighbour has when he saw mine and said he wanted one. If we had more time, the whole street might have posters.

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Re: Election 2017
« Reply #93 on: May 21, 2017, 12:19:59 PM »
But all that's happened is that he now knows you were planning to vote Labour and you now know he was planning to vote Labour. Nobody who wasn't planning to vote Labour is now voting for them. And that is what needed to happen on a large scale for Labour to win. I don't think many people exist who weren't persuaded who to vote for and simply saw a sign in someone's window saying "Vote Labour" and thought "Ok. I will then." I know how most of the people in my street are voting because I've spoken to them - 18 Tories, 3 Lib Dems, 2 UKIP and 6 including us abstaining. If I put a "Vote Labour" poster in my window given how right wing the community is, given the 25,000 plus Tory majority, it'll probably prompt a few otherwise too complacent to need to vote Tories, to bother to turn out to vote Conservative.

And by the the way, the "We support Jeremy Corbyn" FB page is urging people not to vote tactically to get the Tories out but to vote Labour even where the Lib Dems or Greens have the better chance because apparently "every vote for Labour is a vote for Corbyn's leadership."  which is the exact opposite of what we are being told publically by Corbynites - i.e. Vote Labour to get the Tories out whether you like Corbynism or not. It's all so disingenuous.
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Re: Election 2017
« Reply #94 on: May 21, 2017, 10:43:54 PM »
I live in a very densely populated area that traditionally votes Labour. Reminding Labour voters to vote seems a good idea.

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Re: Election 2017
« Reply #95 on: May 22, 2017, 09:10:15 PM »
I have just seen this and wanted to share.

Poem by Agnes Török on the news of a new Conservative budget
Based on experiences of living in Britain under austerity as a young, queer, unemployed, female immigrant student - and not taking it any more.
https://youtu.be/kiaxHUFAWew
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