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Offline Chewwy

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This makes me so sad...

http://www.thegayuk.com/gay-bars-that-have-closed-in-london-since-the-turn-of-the-century/

And I know it's been talked about many times, but still needs discussing (until this space disappears)

Are they relevant today?

Is GB relevant today?

How can we evolve and keep LGBT spaces going?
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They don't mention the Glass Bar.  There was also a gay bar in Walthamstow called Central Station.  I think that has closed too.
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They don't mention the Glass Bar.  There was also a gay bar in Walthamstow called Central Station.  I think that has closed too.

Maybe because The Glass Bar still happens as pop up events, whereas it's sister bar Southopia closed.

Hadn't heard of Central Station, Walthamstow - what was it like?

My first was Due South, Stoke Newington.  When I was firmly in the closet.
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The Artful was situated at 80 Brunner Road, closing in 2007. Also known as The Artful Dodger and as The East And Central Station (apparently a gay bar) in its final years.

^  It was a bit seedy and a mixed men and women.  The women were mostly butch and the men were quite camp.  I went there when i was curious about gay bars and as it was more or less local i tried it out.  I felt out of place there so only went three times and only during the day because it was down a side alley and was too scared to go at night.  The three times i went it was virtually empty.  I had high hopes of one of the women coming over and chatting me up  ::) but it did not happen and i felt uneasy there so never went back.

http://pubshistory.com/EssexPubs/Walthamstow/central.shtml

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I think it's really sad. I mostly socialise through meetups which are great but it makes me sad that most of the meets are in straight pubs even when there are gay pubs nearby. I miss that community feeling of walking into a place and knowing the bar staff and the regulars that you don't get with pop-up and monthly events. There is a difference between gay-friendly pubs and gay bars where you 'own' the space, I don't know why other people don't feel the same.

Obviously the way to keep places open is to frequent them.

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Wow, I didn't realise so many had shut down.

I think GB is still relevant - quite a lot of new people seem to be signing up and reading it, although it would be helpful if some of them posted on it more.

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Wow, I didn't realise so many had shut down.

I think GB is still relevant - quite a lot of new people seem to be signing up and reading it, although it would be helpful if some of them posted on it more.

I think GB has gone downhill recently. 
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It is sad.

Re: relevance... I don't know. I think there is at least a view that for 'the young people', being gay (or lesbian, or possibly bi) is no longer a meaningful or popular identity. But I think that's a bit based on the too-noisy tumblr-based queer folk: I'm not sure it's necessarily too representative of most newly-out kids.

I think also it's true that greater mainstream acceptance (certainly in London) has made possible meet-ups etc in what are actually straight venues. When I was out on the scene, I was very often meeting people I'd arranged to meet online (gaydar, faceparty etc) so I don't think dating app culture has been the thing here (as is often bemoaned) - that's new for straights, not for us. What's new is that perhaps you might now arrange to meet in a straight bar, and not find that problematic.

I do think it's sad. But perhaps I have little right to complain - I don't think I've been in a gay venue for five years. In my defence, I've scarcely been in a straight pub in that time either, but the truth remains that I'm not actually supporting the gay scene.

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Wow, I didn't realise so many had shut down.

I think GB is still relevant - quite a lot of new people seem to be signing up and reading it, although it would be helpful if some of them posted on it more.

I think GB has gone downhill recently.

What's making you feel that?

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Wow, I didn't realise so many had shut down.

I think GB is still relevant - quite a lot of new people seem to be signing up and reading it, although it would be helpful if some of them posted on it more.

I think GB has gone downhill recently.

What's making you feel that?

A lot of the sections of GB are not used and the regular posters have stopped posting.  The only section that is regularly used is the Dungeon.
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Re: Gay Bars That Have Closed In London Since The Turn Of The Century
« Reply #10 on: Apr 15, 2017, 01:58:09 PM »
First Out was my great love! You could do a cafe scene upstairs,look out the window, sit outside,or go downstairs to an intimate bar. I wonder why the owners did not find another place like that?  I thought it was supported but I could be wrong.

I did not notice. Is Retro still there? Love that,also.
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Re: Gay Bars That Have Closed In London Since The Turn Of The Century
« Reply #11 on: Apr 15, 2017, 02:02:35 PM »
Wow, I didn't realise so many had shut down.

I think GB is still relevant - quite a lot of new people seem to be signing up and reading it, although it would be helpful if some of them posted on it more.

I think GB has gone downhill recently.

What's making you feel that?

I looked at the category,"Where to meet?"  Does not look like it did from 2009-2014.  :'(
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