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the last lesbian bars
« on: Aug 19, 2015, 08:12:49 PM »
It's a very interesting documentary on the disappearance of lesbian bars.
https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/video/the-last-lesbian-bars
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Re: the last lesbian bars
« Reply #1 on: Aug 19, 2015, 09:09:51 PM »
Sad.

Not that I'm into bars. But there is little else in way of places to meet, either.

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Re: the last lesbian bars
« Reply #2 on: Aug 19, 2015, 10:29:59 PM »
It's the same here.
It's a combination of factors but male privilege is key. 
There are no safe women's spaces.

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Re: the last lesbian bars
« Reply #3 on: Aug 19, 2015, 11:25:12 PM »
Yes it's been on my mind a fair bit lately.  I keep hearing about gay pub's and venues closing such as The Black Cap, and now The Royal Vauxhall Tavern is under threat.  I think it's terribly sad, but also sad that there didn't seem to be such fuss, or such media attention, when the women's pubs in London closed.  Did we not protest?  Or is that they closed for different reasons, in different circumstances?  Whatever the reason I do long for a woman's space to spend time in.

Also - with the clamp down on squatting in the UK another source of women-only spaces seems to have disappeared.  I used to attend a women-only cafe that happened in various squats around town, I also lived in an all women squat in the late 1990's (in fact that's where the WANcafe I speak of began...) and know of several others as well as other women-only events that used to happen in squats.
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Re: the last lesbian bars
« Reply #4 on: Aug 19, 2015, 11:26:07 PM »
PS. Thanks for the link Amaury, sorry I didn't say that already!  Have saved it to watch when I am less tired, it does look interesting.

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Re: the last lesbian bars
« Reply #5 on: Aug 20, 2015, 08:48:45 AM »
As the docu says, it's the rents and property developers in big cities. And the fact that younger women often don't want to socialise in women only spaces. Plus the internet. On a brighter note, the first drag king bar has just opened in Blackpool.   

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Re: the last lesbian bars
« Reply #6 on: Aug 20, 2015, 08:51:26 AM »
I wonder if a GB trip to Blackpool might be fun? I think it might be possible to organise our own drag king workshop.

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Re: the last lesbian bars
« Reply #7 on: Aug 20, 2015, 10:53:39 AM »
As the docu says, it's the rents and property developers in big cities. And the fact that younger women often don't want to socialise in women only spaces. Plus the internet. On a brighter note, the first drag king bar has just opened in Blackpool.

Well I think there was also the point that there are plenty of other places to go because it's not such a subculture anymore. I though the film was interesting and well made, glad it presented such a wide array of reasons. I feel really ambivalent about the loss of a Lesbian bar scene, as a Femme I've experienced so much harassment in those spaces over the decades, somehow it's all the more disappointing when from 'you own'.

The main thing I took from the film was the need for spaces - not necessarily bars - to make sure there is a continuity of culture/ideas and interchange between subgroups.

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Re: the last lesbian bars
« Reply #8 on: Aug 20, 2015, 04:59:24 PM »
^Me too, with feeling ambivalent. Whenever I feel nostalgic, I always wonder if I am nostalgic for something that never really existed for me. I didn't get this community thing w/o having first to negotiate questions like 'do you know this is a gay bar?' It skewed my relationships and I resented it, and the pretense that it didn't exist.

I also don't remember the bars being multi generational (in London in the 80s and 90s). I even remember mentioning this to friends my age, that I wondered what we'd do when we were 40, (that being the oldest age I could imagine for still wanting to go out).

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Re: the last lesbian bars
« Reply #9 on: Aug 27, 2015, 08:53:31 PM »
Never mind the disappearing of lesbians

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Re: the last lesbian bars
« Reply #10 on: Aug 27, 2015, 08:59:11 PM »
Never mind the disappearing of lesbians

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Never mind the disappearance of lesbian bars according to that docu no one identifies as lesbian anymore? ! Everyone id's as queer,so we are a dying breed then well without lesbians there really is no need for women only spaces because we as lesbians and women won't exist anyway.  The males must be delighted.

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Re: the last lesbian bars
« Reply #11 on: Aug 29, 2015, 08:51:35 AM »
I always identify as lesbian and I'm proud of it and won't be changing to anything else  ;D
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Re: the last lesbian bars
« Reply #12 on: Aug 29, 2015, 01:02:51 PM »
/\  Me too - always have and always will.

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Re: the last lesbian bars
« Reply #13 on: Aug 29, 2015, 05:31:38 PM »
/\  Me too - always have and always will.

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Re: the last lesbian bars
« Reply #14 on: Sep 10, 2015, 07:20:15 AM »
There was an article recently (in Pink news maybe?), which summed it up for me...

Recession
Social media
Hook up apps
Integration
Rent increases

As ever... if you don't use 'em, you lose 'em.
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