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Re: Changes in sexuality - when your sexual identity changes, what then?
« Reply #15 on: Jun 28, 2012, 10:54:55 PM »
^ just love this post.  thank you skyler.

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Re: Changes in sexuality - when your sexual identity changes, what then?
« Reply #16 on: Jun 29, 2012, 12:22:50 AM »
agreed  ;D
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Re: Changes in sexuality - when your sexual identity changes, what then?
« Reply #17 on: Jun 29, 2012, 12:04:34 PM »
I am not sure if people are referring to social friends or close friends when they talk about being judged or rejected when they change identity but it surprises me. Friends are people are that accept and respect you for who you are. I have always had friends who have been fluid in their identities and I would never consider disapproving of them.  Even in my bi-phobic teenage years, we were still all friends and I had close friends who were in relationships with men. Please find real friends and stop critising "lesbians" or "lesbian culture". I have been out for over 25 years and the gay people that I know and rub up against aren't like that.
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Re: Changes in sexuality - when your sexual identity changes, what then?
« Reply #18 on: Jun 29, 2012, 01:40:56 PM »
Agree and disagree, Smurf.

Not good to generalise that "lesbians" are biphobic.

On the other hand, if it's your experience that your mates dumped you or the only gay disco in town wouldn't let you in, you could be forgiven for your negative feelings.

Most bi women are really quick to qualify their rants about lesbian biphobia, which almost often erupt in reaction to a good example of it.

Regarding friends, I feel uncomfortable with your inference that if our friends dump us after we acquire boyfriends we are obviously cr*p at chosing friends. Most of my friends were fine, but I lost one (temporarily) and it was a horrendous loss. I lost more friends (tho only a few) when I came out lesbian, which isn't surprising because I was much younger and the resilience of our relationships were relatively untested by big life events. It can be hard to make friends; it doesn't come naturally to everyone. We make friendships within complex social frameworks (where you live, where you work, where you socialise, how much money you have, whether you have kids, whther you drive, whether you have a disability etc etc etc) - some people don't have a huge amount of choice but it doesn't been their friends don't mean a lot to them.
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Re: Changes in sexuality - when your sexual identity changes, what then?
« Reply #19 on: Oct 10, 2012, 12:08:42 PM »
Thank you for this post!
I want to comment but dont know how to intelligently put across what i want to say (and hope i do not word anything so as to offend anyone here) but i'll have a go any way  :-[
I first came out to a close friend in my teens and it turned out she felt the same which led to us having our first lesbian experience with each other. I then through a strange string of events ended up with a guy, suffering a head injury in a car accident while he was driving & then while i was ill following this fell pregnant with his child. I made a go of a straight life due to this but sadly he was violent and i had to leave him taking my daughter with me for her safety. I didn't cope well with all of this and subsequently ended up in hospital suffering a short term break down. It's a small community and the nasty gossip spread just as it did when i was a teen but by this point i was labelled as straight and by some nasty narrow minded people a 'slut' through these two relationships.
I went out on a few occasions to gay clubs but never met anyone and put this down to my femininity. So again back in the small community i had a straight relationship but again suffering violence.
To cut a long story short (er) I am stuck in/around this area due to my daughters school etc and feel totally isolated and not able to be the person I truly am. People it seems do not live who they are/come out in more rural areas for fear of suffering the prejudice or abuse that comes with it. This in tern means that there are no social groups or support for lesbians/Gays leaving us feeling isolated.
It's shocking that these days a person can be labelled so terribly for having a switch in their partners sex and also that intolerance towards Gay people is still at a level where a whole town will gossip and shut out a person for their sexual orientation. It's like some places are stuck back in time.
My current plans are to move to the outskirts of this town away from the bigots' main gossip/spying area and am planning to go to a lesbian pub meeting in another town now that i have found out about it on here (Bless Gingerbeer.co.uk and all of you).
It takes a lot of courage to live on despite peoples opinions but respectfully- Finger up to those people.
Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning. Albert Einstein

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Re: Changes in sexuality - when your sexual identity changes, what then?
« Reply #20 on: Oct 11, 2012, 03:59:37 PM »
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went out on a few occasions to gay clubs but never met anyone and put this down to my femininity.
I get so frustrated when I read these words, and I've seen similar stuff written from several women. Please don't think you have to stifle your femininity to be a proper gay. You don't and you shouldn't. Some of us love Femmes. Really and truly. Good luck with it all, and don't listen to the opinions of people you don't like or respect anyway. Waste of time. :)

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Re: Changes in sexuality - when your sexual identity changes, what then?
« Reply #21 on: Oct 11, 2012, 08:12:31 PM »
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went out on a few occasions to gay clubs but never met anyone and put this down to my femininity.
I get so frustrated when I read these words, and I've seen similar stuff written from several women. Please don't think you have to stifle your femininity to be a proper gay. You don't and you shouldn't. Some of us love Femmes. Really and truly. Good luck with it all, and don't listen to the opinions of people you don't like or respect anyway. Waste of time. :)

:) 'Tis always good to know!

And, re this post: there definitely needs to more understanding of changes in sexuality and fluidity. From my experience, perceptions are still fairly rigid which is bizarre as sexuality is so complicated. Luckily I have an understanding set of friends and understanding parents who don't question me too much but I can imagine it being upsetting and quite isolating for others who experience this.

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Re: Changes in sexuality - when your sexual identity changes, what then?
« Reply #22 on: Oct 15, 2012, 09:47:49 PM »
I've been in and out of the closet like I've got a time share in Narnia.  ::)

For me, the biggest step has been accepting 'queer' in to part of my gender, as well as my sexual orientation. "Queer" for me, means no boundaries on who I can love, or sleep with (consenting, obviously), no pressure on gender presentation, or being "gold star" anything.

When I came out as bisexual, I felt a lot of negativity from many lesbians, when I had hoped for support. To be honest, I am mostly interested in the female end of the spectrum and haven't been with a man in years.

I feel more comfortable now I have shorter hair and am slowly androgynising my gender presentation... I have some awesome queer friends too.  :-*
When we speak we are afraid our words will not be heard or welcomed. But when we are silent, we are still afraid. So it is better to speak.
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Re: Changes in sexuality - when your sexual identity changes, what then?
« Reply #23 on: Oct 15, 2012, 09:54:59 PM »
I've been in and out of the closet like I've got a time share in Narnia.  ::)

I *love* this statement!  ;D