Would you like to sleep forever?

[Wolfgang]

Agh!  What were the names of the two dutiful sons in Greek mythology whose mother asked for them to be given the ultimate human happiness and who were thus put to sleep for the rest of their lives? 

[Novela]

^ In Sparta, wasnt it?
I always thought that story must have been either scrambled to fvck in transmission, or else be an illustration for the really peculiar sense of humour of the gods.

[kiawe]

Someone needs to work out the correlations between
enjoying sleep,
using flannels,
being punctual,
owning camping gear,
washing dishes promptly,
wanting to live forever,
and all the other great divisive issues on Gingerbeer.

Where are the statisticians?

[betterthanaverage]

I'll sleep when I'm dead.

[Wolfgang]

^ In Sparta, wasnt it?
I always thought that story must have been either scrambled to fvck in transmission, or else be an illustration for the really peculiar sense of humour of the gods.

Yeah, requests granted by the gods often come with an unexpected twist that can render a blessing into a curse - I think it shows how limited and temporal humans' worldview is.   And the gods are unable to undo their own gifts.  But I think this story also illustrates the ancient view that consciousness = suffering; the Greek word for experience is the same as the word for suffering - paschõ --> Paschal, Latin=passio --> passion.   Also PLEASE let me have the code for your swishy avatar; I love him.

[Novela]

Interesting. And of course passion can be both ecstasy and intense suffering (eg. passion of Christ).
In German too, come to think of it; Leidenschaft contains Leiden which means suffering.


My knife-thrower comes from here. He's fab, isnt he?

I just wish the swishy interesting animated folk weren't all male.

[Wolfgang]

'Zackly.  Passion used to denote a burden, be it of suffering or emotion or zeal, whereas today of course everyone is&required to be passionate about everything.  Fûcking Apprentice boardroom...

And for all we know it's a crossdressing woman.  In fact, it has red hair....  *eyes PQ beadily*

[Blythe]

Interesting. And of course passion can be both ecstasy and intense suffering (eg. passion of Christ).
In German too, come to think of it; Leidenschaft contains Leiden which means suffering.

Is that where the term leider hosen comes from?
Are they particularly uncomfortable?

[ThaïsInSeclusion]

^ Waiting for the answer to this with bated breath.

And Wolfgang, my compliments on your new and I believe thoroughly original use of the circumflex.

[Novela]

And for all we know it's a crossdressing woman.  In fact, it has red hair....  *eyes PQ beadily*

"It"? 



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Is that where the term leider hosen comes from?
Are they particularly uncomfortable?

For the beholder, yes.

It's Lederhosen, which unspectacularly translates as leather trousers.

[ThaïsInSeclusion]

Somewhere in some country leather must mean painful. 

[kiawe]

Somewhere in some country leather must mean painful. 

When your chaps are chapping your hide...

[Novela]

Somewhere in some country leather must mean painful. 

When your chaps are chapping your hide...

[ThaïsInSeclusion]

LOL.

So, Kiawe, *that's* why your male colleagues have to wear baggy khakis during the day.

[kiawe]

I was thinking more of these kinds of chaps: